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Re: [Syncato-general] Twisted?

Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:17:07 -0700

I have looked at running it under twisted and other frameworks as well. 
You're correct that the coupling to webware is very loose and it should 
be possible to run it in another environment fairly easily. At one 
point my plan was to use something else to host it in the hope that I 
could simplify installation some by removing the dependency on Webware. 
I forget the name of the framework I was going to use, but it was very 
light and I would have just included it with Syncato.

On Aug 11, 2004, at 8:11 AM, mark williamson wrote:

> Hello,
>
> has anyone looked at hosting Syncato in the twisted framework?
> Am I right in thinking that just re-writing the servlety things
> or even better making some sort of twisted adapter will do the trick?
> are the any other dependancies that I've missed?
>
> mark
>
>
>
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[Syncato-general] Twisted?

Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:11:24 +0100

Hello, 

has anyone looked at hosting Syncato in the twisted framework? 
Am I right in thinking that just re-writing the servlety things 
or even better making some sort of twisted adapter will do the trick?
are the any other dependancies that I've missed?

mark



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Re: [Syncato-general] State of MetaWeblog API?

Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:00:43 -0500

Garth Corral wrote:
> 
> On Jul 19, 2004, at 7:34 AM, darryl wrote:
> 
>> Patches appreciated !
>>
> Okay, here's a patch against the head in CVS that implements 
> mt_setPostCategories().  The rest of it is untouched save for a couple 
> of nits that I fixed.  Also, config.xml in the tree should probably be 
> changed to set  correctly for this to work from a 
> checkout.
> 


Patch applied. Thanks.

> 
> Not related to the syncato implementation, it's kind of an unpleasant 
> little protocol.  Not very flexible and a lot of overhead for not much 
> gain over GET/POST and friends.  I guess the gain comes from it being in 
> fairly widespread use.  Still.
> 
> 

Yes, the metaWeblog API is a beast. I'm hopefull atom will fix many of 
the problems. I like a REST-full approach vs. the RPC one.


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Re: [Syncato-general] State of MetaWeblog API?

Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:42:33 -0700

On Jul 19, 2004, at 7:34 AM, darryl wrote:

> Patches appreciated !
>
Okay, here's a patch against the head in CVS that implements 
mt_setPostCategories().  The rest of it is untouched save for a couple 
of nits that I fixed.  Also, config.xml in the tree should probably be 
changed to set  correctly for this to work from 
a checkout.

This is not well tested at all and it's not likely to get a lot of 
testing by me but it allows me to do what I wanted with NetNewsWire 
which is create a new posting with categories.  The weblog in NNW needs 
to be configured as a Movable Type system.  I'll be happy to fix any 
bugs in this but as I said, I'm not likely to find them myself.

Not related to the syncato implementation, it's kind of an unpleasant 
little protocol.  Not very flexible and a lot of overhead for not much 
gain over GET/POST and friends.  I guess the gain comes from it being 
in fairly widespread use.  Still.

Re: [Syncato-general] State of MetaWeblog API?

Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:04:42 -0700

Garth Corral wrote:

>
> On Jul 19, 2004, at 7:34 AM, darryl wrote:
>
>> As Kimbro said in his reply the most recent stuff was done by me. The 
>> problem is when Kimbro added the admin interface i stopped using the 
>> MetaWeblog API. If there are changes you'd like to make i'm sure we 
>> could roll them in. The category item especially. I don't have NNW to 
>> test so basically what I did was get it working with BloGTK (iirc) 
>> and never really tested with others.
>>
> Okay, thanks guys.  I actually prefer the web interface too but I 
> think that my wife might prefer a standalone client so I thought I'd 
> take a look at it.  NetNewsWire seems to work okay except for setting 
> post categories.  I'll take a look at it and if it isn't too much 
> work, I may take a crack at getting it working.
>

If you need a hand just drop an email here.
I'd do it but I just don't have anything to test with :)

-darryl

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Re: [Syncato-general] State of MetaWeblog API?

Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:44:29 -0700

On Jul 19, 2004, at 7:34 AM, darryl wrote:

> As Kimbro said in his reply the most recent stuff was done by me. The 
> problem is when Kimbro added the admin interface i stopped using the 
> MetaWeblog API. If there are changes you'd like to make i'm sure we 
> could roll them in. The category item especially. I don't have NNW to 
> test so basically what I did was get it working with BloGTK (iirc) and 
> never really tested with others.
>
Okay, thanks guys.  I actually prefer the web interface too but I think 
that my wife might prefer a standalone client so I thought I'd take a 
look at it.  NetNewsWire seems to work okay except for setting post 
categories.  I'll take a look at it and if it isn't too much work, I 
may take a crack at getting it working.



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Re: [Syncato-general] State of MetaWeblog API?

Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:34:02 -0500

Garth Corral wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> I was wondering if there has been work on the MetaWeblog API that has 
> not made it into CVS.  My checkout from the head of the tree has a 
> config.xml containing:
> 
> category
> 
> This seems only to be used in MetaWeblog.py but that file also has a 
> couple of hardcoded references to  a category element.  It seems this is 
> not in sync with the rest of the code which uses category-def.
> 
> Also, I was playing around with this using NetNewsWire and it calls 
> metaWeblog.newPost() followed by a call to mt.setPostCategories(), which 
> does not appear to be implemented.  Is there some issue with 
> implementing this or there just hasn't been a need for it?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Garth

As Kimbro said in his reply the most recent stuff was done by me. The 
problem is when Kimbro added the admin interface i stopped using the 
MetaWeblog API. If there are changes you'd like to make i'm sure we 
could roll them in. The category item especially. I don't have NNW to 
test so basically what I did was get it working with BloGTK (iirc) and 
never really tested with others.

Patches appreciated !

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Re: [Syncato-general] State of MetaWeblog API?

Mon, 19 Jul 2004 02:44:23 -0700

I don't have any uncommitted changes to it. Darryl might as all recent 
changes to that code have been his. I don't use the API, but when I was 
developing it originally I had trouble with NetNewsWire. Darryl got it 
working with his client, but NetnewsWire still had problems and I've 
never gotten around to fixing them as I don't use NetNewsWire anymore. 
If you can fix it, feel free to submit a patch.

On Jul 18, 2004, at 11:33 PM, Garth Corral wrote:

>
> Hey guys,
>
> I was wondering if there has been work on the MetaWeblog API that has 
> not made it into CVS.  My checkout from the head of the tree has a 
> config.xml containing:
>
> category
>
> This seems only to be used in MetaWeblog.py but that file also has a 
> couple of hardcoded references to  a category element.  It seems this 
> is not in sync with the rest of the code which uses category-def.
>
> Also, I was playing around with this using NetNewsWire and it calls 
> metaWeblog.newPost() followed by a call to mt.setPostCategories(), 
> which does not appear to be implemented.  Is there some issue with 
> implementing this or there just hasn't been a need for it?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Garth
>
>
>
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[Syncato-general] State of MetaWeblog API?

Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:33:01 -0700

Hey guys,

I was wondering if there has been work on the MetaWeblog API that has 
not made it into CVS.  My checkout from the head of the tree has a 
config.xml containing:

category

This seems only to be used in MetaWeblog.py but that file also has a 
couple of hardcoded references to  a category element.  It seems this 
is not in sync with the rest of the code which uses category-def.

Also, I was playing around with this using NetNewsWire and it calls 
metaWeblog.newPost() followed by a call to mt.setPostCategories(), 
which does not appear to be implemented.  Is there some issue with 
implementing this or there just hasn't been a need for it?


Thanks in advance,

Garth



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Re: [Syncato-general] Stylesheet library

Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:34:05 -0500

Kimbro Staken wrote:
> Cool.
> 
> Did you ever get etags working?
> 
>>
>>

Yes and no.

Getting etags working is really simple.
That being said there might be a subtle bug in there somewhere.
It seems to work well enough for aggregators but seems to not work
correctly with multiple reloads with a browser.

What i'm doing is a md5 digest of the result of a GET request. So in 
order to get maximum mileage you have to minimize the dynamic content in 
the stylesheets. For example the default rss20 template always supplies 
the current date. This would, of course, cause the digest to change 
every request. So in my template i dropped the date.

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[Syncato-general] I forgot

Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:29:22 -0700

to mention in my last post that I'm running syncato from CVS on a 
FreeBSD box.



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[Syncato-general] Introduction

Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:24:41 -0700

Hi all,

I'm brand new to this list so I thought I'd introduce myself.  I also 
have a bunch of questions but I'll try to break them up into several 
smaller emails.  First let me say thanks for all the effort on Syncato. 
  I've only been playing with it for a short while but it seems pretty 
cool so far.

I started looking at webware recently and wanted to find a somewhat 
large application to use as an example.  After searching for a while, I 
didn't find anything suitable so I decided I would just poke at it over 
time to see what I could discover.  It was shortly afterward that my 
wife started to inquire about the possibility of installing some 
software so that she could start a blog.  I thought that maybe I'd like 
to give blogging a try too and...  Here I am.

It was a nice surprise to find that it used webware but, being new to 
both things I was a little confused by the installation of Syncato.  I 
thought that the install would be within my existing webware webapp 
heirarchy and perhaps run within a context of that installation.  As 
I've said, I don't completely understand deployment of webware apps.  
What I gather, though is that people are plopping the entire Syncato 
tree somewhere and running a separate webware instance.  Does that 
sound about right?

Also, from what I can see, there is no mult-user (blogger) support per 
se.  I've managed to run two separate webware instances each running 
syncato and talking to apache/mod_webkit on different ports with 
differenct base URLs.  Am I missing something?  Is this the way to have 
multiple blogs on a single server.  It seems to be working fine so far.

Anyway, I'll have more questions as I get into this a bit more but 
thanks in advance for any help.


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[Syncato-general] Re: Syncato Dev work

Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:54:20 -0500

mark williamson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I mentioned on the list that we are using Syncato at the British
> Library. I've got (very basic) multi-user working and enthusiasm
> for the project is high. To this end I am getting a contractor 
> to do some more work on Syncato. 
> 
> We are looking at:
> 
> Subversion back end (a version of the FileDatabase)
> Support for items in Subversion (for example a word document would 
> appear in Syncato as a record with a link and some metadata in it)
> Better Multi-user support
> DocBook support including support for different renderings (pdf,rtf
> etc).
> UI for categories,users etc. 
> Editing UI
> 
> Now - I was wondering how you guys want to work with this. We could 
> just provide a temporary fork (which would be available from our 
> project servers) and let you take back what you want, I could get 
> our contractor to work with you to add this as modules or something 
> so it was part of the main version. 
> 
> Out of interest we are embarking on a very large project here (this
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3827227.stm is just a small 
> part of it) and we are trying to build ourselves tools that will
> grow with us and support what we are trying to do. Syncato is seen 
> as a key part of that. 
> 
> What do you think? 
> 
> cheers
> 
> mark williamson
> 
> 

Mark,

I forwarded this email to kimbro's personal address as well to try and 
make sure he sees it. As far as i know he's still very deeply involved 
in a new venture and has not been very active developing syncato of late.

So i'll leave off commenting until hopefuly he replies.

It's great to see that you guys have plans for syncato!

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